I am going to let you in on a conversation/debate I am currently having with a friend of mine. It’s to do strictly with asylum seekers, boat people, immigrants coming into Australia. Not the legal ones, the illegal ones apparently seeking refuge or asylum. My opinion may be somewhat slanted or biased but I am happy with my stance and refuse to waver. I do accept other peoples opinions and will accept a valid point but as yet I have not been given ANYTHING of validity to go on. WARNING: the following may have language that some might find offensive. I invite you to read on…
MY FRIEND: we aren’t full we are fucking far from being full we can take in so many more refugee’s we can and should apart from the advantages posed from being a country founded on immigration our food and our culture are richer for immigration. My father was a boat person you think im being unpatriotic fuck you i love this country that’s why i want to make it better. more to come…
REDBEARD: NZ has the right idea. The majority of them are illegal queue jumpers. I immigrated here but I did it legally! For actual refugees that get processed why do they persist and put them in already highly populated areas like west Sydney? Put them in regional areas. If you come here on a boat you go were we tell you. If they don’t like it put them on a boat and send them back. Ultimately I would say fuck off to all boats. Regardless of Refugee status.
MY FRIEND: exactly and queue jumpers how can you jump a fucking cue when there isn’t one a lot of refugees and asylum seekers aren’t coming from places where there is a queue to jump why lock up someone for something that they have no control over prepare yourself ladies and gentlemen im just starting
REDBEARD: So we let anyone who comes in on a boat straight into the public regardless of who they are and where the come from? By your logic MY FRIEND. How is that fair to people who immigrate legally? What is really annoying is these apparent asylum seekers come here and try to force their religion and racial in-fighting here. If they’re so obsessed with the issues in their native country why leave? Don’t come here, protest and make your issues ours. Do it in your own country. I agree with John Key ; turn the boats around.
MY FRIEND: nope its simple mandatory detention wont stop bad people getting into our country make them agree to abide by our law and if they break it then send them packing turning the boats around will only exacerbate the problem we spend so much on the current system its not even funny. Here’s a novel idea why not integrate them into our community before passing judgement you can’t honestly say that all immigrants that are legal wont break our law or havent broken laws in there own country. It comes down to this we as people have a responsibility to treat others with the compassion we would wish to receive ourselves. Out of all of us aborigines have the most right to be pissed. This love it or leave it mentality is backwards and serves no purpose other than to make us feel safe. Ultimately though we would benefit from immigration illegal or otherwise we have skills shortage doesn’t it make more sense to train illegals to do the jobs some australians believe they are too good for.
REDBEARD: If youre a legal immigrant you have to undergo police checks, you need to have sponsors who are citizens of Australia to account for you plus so much more. So if you have a criminal record you don’t get in; simple. How about the dole bludgers and those who life off the tax the rest of us pay getting benefits from centrelink; let’s train them. I didn’t say love it or leave it. What I’m saying is don’t bring your domestic shit from the country you “had” to leave to Australia. These boat people and others now have some fucked up sense of entitlement that they deserve to live where they please. Coming here expecting to be accepted without question. Rioting in the detention centers. What can we expect from them when they are integrated into society? Not exactly helping the perception of the people are they?
OTHER GUY: Redbeard, go spend some nights in Villawood! You would be screaming to get out pretty soon, in much less than a month im sure. Assylum seekers generally risk all to come here in order to escape violence and start a new life, not to start shit. Good post MY FRIEND, I’m glad your paternal grandmother made the huge effort to come here with your young father. I would not have met the woman I love (or her family), if it wasn’t for your g’mas amazing efforts. In addition, most immigrants are fat, useless, unwashing poms that arrive from Heathrow at Sydney airport and take a lot of Sydney’s high paying jobs… and they FAR outweigh the number of folk seeking refuge. They don’t exactly need our help as much as those escaping civil war in Sri Lanka, drought and famine in Sudan, child prostitution in South East Asia or family violence. We need to re-assess our priorities.
REDBEARD: I understand both your points on the detention centres. But if I “risked it all” got on a boat travelled the ocean and landed in a country who accepted me and said “hang tight we’re going to have to do some checks on your background because hey, you didn’t bring any identification with you so we don’t know who you are”. I would think to myself, fair call how do they know who I am? And I would bet my life that those detention centres are a hell of a lot better than the places they’d come from so I’d be grateful for a bed and a roof over my head. In terms of the legal immigrants who you say are fat, useless poms. Firstly, to squash your theory if they’re so useless how do they get the “high paying job” you speak of? And guess what dickheads I AM a legal immigrant from a violent, savaged land with babies being raped, people being killed by police for their cars and so much more. Did I get on a boat and ride in with a sense of entitlement? No. We slogged hard for many years. My parents got jobs, my brother and I went to school and are making something of our lives after moving another country in a dire state the RIGHT way. So I have zero compassion, sympathy or obligation to make these fuckers on boats come in here and think they can own the join. Both of you talk of the tales of other generations before you and courage. Well I talk in the first person and I think my prioties are right in line.